The Writer's Circle
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Re: The Writer's Circle
Haha, I was expecting someone to pick up on this!
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Pretty dissatisfied with my writing for the longest time. Can't bring myself to continue SoN.
The next story is going to be the one. Going to start putting a lot of effort in again, and then some. I might even do some planning (finally hitting me on a personal level that it might be important).
Edit:
Going to try my hand at writing game reviews again in the meantime.
Edit 2: Forget what I said about the next story being the one.
The next story is going to be the one. Going to start putting a lot of effort in again, and then some. I might even do some planning (finally hitting me on a personal level that it might be important).
Edit:
Going to try my hand at writing game reviews again in the meantime.
Edit 2: Forget what I said about the next story being the one.
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Planning in terms of getting a general idea of the whole story before writing or something else?
I used to never have a plan beyond the next part for my stories [well, the fan-created stuff] and aside from the Pokemon one - which I still feel isn't exactly that strong - none of them ever got finished, and the one original story I was writing I got stuck with due to a lack of planning. The two stories in which I started with virtually no planning but then started to really plan ahead later down the line really started to show better writing. One of those is a fan-created crossover [in which I only have two episodes left to finish until complete] and the other was an original creation story I removed from my site so I could rework it with a full plan to make it much better, which is going to be my second self-published book.
I used to never have a plan beyond the next part for my stories [well, the fan-created stuff] and aside from the Pokemon one - which I still feel isn't exactly that strong - none of them ever got finished, and the one original story I was writing I got stuck with due to a lack of planning. The two stories in which I started with virtually no planning but then started to really plan ahead later down the line really started to show better writing. One of those is a fan-created crossover [in which I only have two episodes left to finish until complete] and the other was an original creation story I removed from my site so I could rework it with a full plan to make it much better, which is going to be my second self-published book.
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Looking forward to this
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I've written plenty without planning and it gives you more freedom to change how events will develop as you write it, but I can't say the stuff I've produced from it has been particularly good. My problem is I don't know how to plan because I can't actually get a plot idea. I can come up with characters, worlds and concepts. I just can't put them together into a series of events.
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For me planning certainly helps, but at the very least just make a load of notes in a clear way you yourself understand so that you can remember all the ideas you have had. It may work differently for writing short stories and novels, but this is how I plan and make notes for my scripts (again, using F-Zero I'm currently working on as an example):
I would also say the most important part of planning is your Story Outline, as that, of course, outlines how, where and when your narrative elements occur.
I'm sure you all already know this but I thought this may help. (Also don't steal any of my ideas for F-Zero
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I'm sure you all already know this but I thought this may help. (Also don't steal any of my ideas for F-Zero

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When I have tried planning in the past, the place I start is usually the "end goal". Which is like the final resolution where the goals of the protagonist ad antagonist clash and the matter is finally settled to some degree of absolution. Then work on everything that builds up to that like requirements. This is where most of my recent ideas have fallen flat, either the protagonist or antagonist doesn't have a goal or don't strictly want something and are more driven in response to the actions of the other which involves them for some reason or another. So I can't build an end goal to work towards. I mention this because looking at the notes for your F-Zero thing, I'm not actually seeing where yours leads up to. I get that you've got a plot of a Grand Prix to build around, but looking at the main protagonist and antagonist and don't see what either want or why. Does Captain Falcon want to win for the prize money, the fame, more personal reasons like making someone proud or doing what someone else can't for them? Does he instead want to bring prestige back to a sport in disrepute or clean up the gambling scene and think these things can be achieved by him winning? Looks like the antagonist's goal is just money which is fair enough, but what for? Extravagant lifestyle, women, charity? And how do his pursuits of corruption contradict Captain Falcon's goals? Does he have secret investment in a specific racer, so wants that one to do well? If there's no direct conflict of interests, doesn't actually make him an antagonist, just a dick. Also personally curious how a specific person winning a race can bring down the leader of an organisation since I assume the final race is the final boss fight. Just things to think about that could help you.
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<Princess> that's effort
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<Kaeetayel> The last one doesn't sound too bad
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Okay, I like the questions you are raising so it may help if I expand further upon some elements:
In effect, at it's core, it's kind of a detective story. Our Protagonist, Falcon, slowly uncovers these crimes and plots that lead back to the F-Zero Grand Prix, and as various background details on his character (which as of yet, still need to finalised) all play into his motivation. The antagonist, Theodore Remington (still not fully sold on that name by the way), is like a dictator. He has full control over the sport, and sure his motivations may be the same old cliche of money and power, but it's the duty of the good clean racers who uphold the sport to make sure it is clear of any wrongdoing or evil.
The planning at this stage may not be fully clear at this time (coming from me it usually never is
), but it definitely helps in layering plots and narratives, so that the core narrative truly has weight to it by the end of the film/book.
The planning at this stage may not be fully clear at this time (coming from me it usually never is

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Game Review #2
Pikmin for the Gamecube
Pikmin for the Gamecube
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That's a lovely review of Pikmin. I love it. It says everything it needs to while also giving clear opinions.
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The castlevania review is good too - I thought it was a good way of setting the environment for the review with the talk of your experience with other Castlevania games first (and in fact that was probably the most interesting bit). It was almost like a retrospective.
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Ever thought of making a blog for your reviews Kriken ?
I stick a lot of reviews I do on my own blog, its kind of fun to have one place where they all are and you can point people towards.
I stick a lot of reviews I do on my own blog, its kind of fun to have one place where they all are and you can point people towards.
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Just out of interest kerr, how many views do you get on your blog in a month?
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My brain had a poop last night and words came out. It's not much but haven't written for so long that it's just good to finally get something down. It's not got a defined end point, just sort of stops at where I got to because there's no context for it in my mind, definitely feels like part of something bigger, I just don't know what. Which is kind of why I'm sharing it, see what people think of it.
<Kaeetayel> Go for a team entirely composed of Eeveelutions
<Princess> that's effort
<Princess> I need to buy the stones/go to rocks/make them happy/touch Eevee
<Kaeetayel> The last one doesn't sound too bad
<Princess> that's effort
<Princess> I need to buy the stones/go to rocks/make them happy/touch Eevee
<Kaeetayel> The last one doesn't sound too bad
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That's quite a good set-up for a story. I like it. Great description of the senses as well.
As for where it can go, there's the expected and unexpected.
As for where it can go, there's the expected and unexpected.
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Thanks for the comments. I've had review blogs in the past. No current plans to share my reviews outside this forum at the moment though, so I'm not bothered.
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Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia for the Nintendo 3DS
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Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia for the Nintendo 3DS

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Meant to spend a lot of this summer writing but between work and other stuff just haven't managed to sit myself down and go for it till now. Been working on my dark fantasy idea from last page and finally worked out generally how I wanted it to start as well as expanding the main cast a bit since some new characters kind of just formed themselves while I've been daydreaming about it. Also changed the first chapter a little and have a tentative(/kind of cliche) title, so:
The Crimson Night - Chapter One
Chapter 2
The Crimson Night - Chapter One
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