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Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:03 pm
by Stanson
Okay, so this site was basically made because ONM shut down, the magazine ended and of course the forum shut down following that. ONM were the Official Nintendo Magazine...the official magazine for Nintendo within the UK. In fact, Nintendo UK actually advertised when a new issue was out, did a few promotional things with them too. This is also why you couldn't exactly trust ONM's reviews of brand new Nintendo games because you knew they were going to be biased as hell.

Anyway, because it was the OFFICIAL Nintendo Magazine, they had a reputation to upkeep. Nintendo has had a very family friendly ethos since about 2005 when the DS first burst onto the scene. There was a lot of furore on the old forums about the moderators at times but ultimately, you had to respect the job they had to do. There were Admins on the forum like Tom East or Chris 'The gooseberry fool' Scullion, but they couldn't be expected to be monitoring the forum all the time. That's why there was a moderating team, people who could be trusted to keep the forum in check. Especially given how popular the forums were at their peak (merging with CVG boosted the sites numbers too).

But that was then and this is now. This site has been set up as an off-shoot for the few people who want to keep in touch with the community that they grew to know and interact with on ONM. That's not an issue. But there's no 'higher force'. This is not an Official Nintendo Messageboard. You don't have to keep in line with the ethos of Nintendo, there's nobody to please. In fact, there is not even an Admin team. There's just a small community of people who want to discuss eton mess with each other. A lot of people on here have known each for TEN YEARS. An entire decade. We're familiar with each other, at least the nucleus of the site is.

So why are the chains still on? It is absolutely bizarre that there is strict moderating on here that is comparable to ONM. There is ZERO reason for it. I can understand if there's a massive spam attack, a prolific spammer that comes up from nowhere....but moderating/restricting what can only be described as banter, often heated discussion, between members (such as myself) who have been here and there on these sites for AN ENTIRE DECADE? Is that how you treat their loyalty to this community? As far as I am concerned, the moderating team that exists now is on an ego trip. That is the only reason that can be used to described this. It seems bonkers to me that this site is moderated the way it is.

Just wanted to give my two cents.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:06 pm
by fluffyKittan
R.I.P. Stanson, died 18-04-2016.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:06 pm
by AlterntiveAntagonist
i agree

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:09 pm
by PiGreat
agreed

wonder how long before OR storms in and puts a swift end to this

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:13 pm
by fluffyKittan
PiGreat wrote:agreed

wonder how long before OR storms in and puts a swift end to this
Can we not point fingers and generalise please this thread was perfectly passive aggressive before you showed up. I don't really care which way this discussion goes so I'll shut up now, but I don't think it's fair to assume people will react in such a way without giving their reasoning for what they do.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:15 pm
by Pepsi Supreme
if a starving north korean pointed their finger at kim jong un would it not be fair

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:16 pm
by Decretum
fluffyKittan wrote:
PiGreat wrote:agreed

wonder how long before OR storms in and puts a swift end to this
Can we not point fingers and generalise please this thread was perfectly passive aggressive before you showed up. I don't really care which way this discussion goes so I'll shut up now, but I don't think it's fair to assume people will react in such a way without giving their reasoning for what they do.
Don't talk to some guy or his son ever again

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:17 pm
by HassyTheSassy
wouldn't pointing fingers be the OPPOSITE of generalising?!?!?!?!?!

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:18 pm
by Garf
not if you point enough fingers

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:20 pm
by Met
Meh, it's fine. The main issue is with everyone else eton mess all over the place, really.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:21 pm
by MintChocChip
gooseberry fool me, I agree with Stanson. What is this forum coming to?

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:22 pm
by FalcoPunch
Stanson wrote:here's just a small community of people who want to discuss eton mess with each other. A lot of people on here have known each for TEN YEARS. An entire decade. We're familiar with each other, at least the nucleus of the site is.
There are some new people - those who've come from affiliate gaming sites but want to discuss Nintendo instead of games general. NX and Zelda 2016 are just around the corner!! This site has way too many memes and inside jokes.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:24 pm
by row101
gooseberry fool hell, maybe the mods want this place to resemble a reasonable forum. eton mess, or "banter", doesn't serve any purpose other than pissing off the silent majority of users, the people who want to have a pleasant community with high-quality discussion. This isn't 4chan, stop with the memes.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:26 pm
by Pepsi Supreme
you are gooseberry fool boring

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:28 pm
by Edd
Because otherwise it'll be the same five or so people posting the same banter or whatever you want to call it constantly and everyone else would get bored of it and leave. I'm sure there are already plenty of people who don't post as much as they would or used to because of it.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:39 pm
by DizzyOlive
row101 wrote:gooseberry fool hell, maybe the mods want this place to resemble a reasonable forum. eton mess, or "banter", doesn't serve any purpose other than pissing off the silent majority of users, the people who want to have a pleasant community with high-quality discussion. This isn't 4chan, stop with the memes.
expecting "high-quality discussion" from ONM...

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:40 pm
by JenovaPX
There's no greater authority behind the forum, you're correct, so it's up to the owner to determine what kind of ethos he wants this forum to operate under. As it is, things aren't strict here compared to ONM but that doesn't mean this is a place to just do whatever you want nor should it be. This is a place for everyone ideally and that means concessions and compromises from everyone, it means stupid eton mess, memes and spam that derail and spoil things for others can't go unchecked and it means that other people have to compromise and accept that just because you don't like how someone's acting it doesn't mean they're doing anything wrong. This place isn't for just you, it's a place for everyone and if people disagree with that sentiment then there's no reason for you to be on here, if you're looking for a place with no "chains" and friends then by all means there's no shortage of places people can go.

This isn't ONM, it's its own thing, if you don't like the ethos behind it then in all seriousness, maybe you should consider why you come here. We're not about to change our position on this anytime soon and yeah, it's down to OR and the mods' decision just as much as it is down to the repeated reports we get about this kind of thing everytime it happens. We want this place to grow and be a good environment for as many people as possible, everyone needs to respect that.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:42 pm
by FalcoPunch
Doesn't the admin guy pay for this out of his own checkbook? Let him decide how to run things - if you don't like it go to 4chan.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:42 pm
by PiGreat
richarduk pays for it with his offshore investments

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:47 pm
by Mr. EE
Edd wrote:Because otherwise it'll be the same five or so people posting the same banter or whatever you want to call it constantly and everyone else would get bored of it and leave. I'm sure there are already plenty of people who don't post as much as they would or used to because of it.
Exactly why I haven't been coming here as much lately.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:50 pm
by Met
It is also why I've been away from OT more than usual.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:52 pm
by JenovaPX
FalcoPunch wrote:Doesn't the admin guy pay for this out of his own checkbook? Let him decide how to run things - if you don't like it go to 4chan.
Yep, it's OR's money that keeps this place up and running.
Mr. EE wrote:
Edd wrote:Because otherwise it'll be the same five or so people posting the same banter or whatever you want to call it constantly and everyone else would get bored of it and leave. I'm sure there are already plenty of people who don't post as much as they would or used to because of it.
Exactly why I haven't been coming here as much lately.
Unfortunately something that we've had PMs from multiple people over the past week or so is that yeah, people post less because of it and we've had a few people leave as a result. Maybe it's funny to drive people away at the time or something or maybe it's something people genuinely haven't considered but it just makes it funny when you get those people complaining that this place isn't how they want it.

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:53 pm
by Decretum
row101 wrote:gooseberry fool hell, maybe the mods want this place to resemble a reasonable forum. eton mess, or "banter", doesn't serve any purpose other than pissing off the silent majority of users, the people who want to have a pleasant community with high-quality discussion. This isn't 4chan, stop with the memes.
down with the qq mafia and 4chan memes we need more high-quality discussion like legalising guns I agree

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:01 pm
by Kappa
i get my topic posting privileges back and now i'm being told to go to 4chan like it's a special place and even worse the most boring topic on sonm pops up so let's post in it

haha you guys got hit by the PWN SQUAD lol rite nah it's just qq ruining another beautiful and serene forum totally
FalcoPunch wrote: This site has way too many memes and inside jokes.
when you come to an already established community it will have its own derived humour from things that have already happened
row101 wrote:gooseberry fool hell, maybe the mods want this place to resemble a reasonable forum. eton mess, or "banter", doesn't serve any purpose other than pissing off the silent majority of users, the people who want to have a pleasant community with high-quality discussion. This isn't 4chan, stop with the memes.
you participate in the feels thread? also lol go back to 4chan
Edd wrote:Because otherwise it'll be the same five or so people posting the same banter or whatever you want to call it constantly and everyone else would get bored of it and leave. I'm sure there are already plenty of people who don't post as much as they would or used to because of it.
i agree watching masturbatory posting of eton mess is not what this forum is all about

Re: Let's discuss this site.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:03 pm
by Decretum
something something met's penis har har?