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Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Zanreo » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:14 pm

If you've played several games from the same franchise you probably think some are better than others. So, which games do you think are the best and worst ones? Please try to keep it to games you've actually played - as easy as it is to list the CD-i Zeldas as worst Zelda game, try listing something you have an opinion on from your own experience (unless you've actually played CD-i Zelda)

Here's mine. (Note that "worst" for me doesn't always mean it's a "bad" game, just that I enjoyed it less than the others. I haven't played a lot of games I consider "bad", not sure if that's because I'm too forgiving or I'm just that awesome at picking out what games are good or at least decent.) List might change as I play new games in the series. Series where I've played all the games (released at the time of writing) are marked with *

Kirby* (not counting spinoffs):
Best: Superstar Saga, Kirby's Adventure Wii
Worst: Amazing Mirror (still ok though)

Pokémon* (main RPG series - not counting spinoffs):
Best: ORAS, honorable mention: Heartgold/Soulsilver
Worst: Red/Blue (I appreciate how they started out the series and all, but really I don't think they've aged well from today's perspective)

2D Mario* (main platform series - not counting spinoff games and series):
Best: Super Mario World
Worst: Lost Levels (It kind of feels like SMB on SUPER HARD FOR THE SAKE OF HARD mode...)

3D Mario* (main platform series - not counting spinoff games and series):
Best: Super Mario 3D World (honorable mention: Galaxy 2, 64 DS)
Worst: Super Mario Sunshine (Haven't played it that much though)

Mario & Luigi* :
Best: Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
Worst: Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (It's still great though, just slightly less than the rest)

Rhythm Heaven*:
Best: Rhythm Heaven Fever
Worst: Rhythm Heaven (DS) (Still a great game, I just liked the others more)

Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents*: (Counting them under the same since it's pretty much the same game)
Best: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2
Worst: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan (because of unskippable cutscenes)

Wario Land*:
Best: Wario Land 4
Worst: Wario Land 3

Warioware (haven't tried Twisted or Snapped):
Best: Warioware: Mega Microgame$/Minigame Mania
Worst: Warioware DIY (I liked making my own games, but disappointed in how few levels/pre-made games the game had... Outside of own content it's way too short)

Ace Attorney* :
Best: Trials and Tribulations, honorable mention: Dual Destinies
Worst: Justice for All (Even though "the miracle never happen" is one of my favorite cases)

Yoshi's Island* :
Best: Yoshi's Island
Worst: Yoshi's Island DS(Though I wouldn't say I hate it like a lot of people seem to...)

Katamari (haven't tried Touch my Katamari, Beautiful Katamari or the iOS game)
Best: Katamari Forever
Worst: Me & My Katamari
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Bix » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:11 am

Where our gaming paths cross your taste is not too dissimilar to mine.

Kirby
Best: Epic Yarn
Worst: Amazing Mirror (the one that 'sucked me in' the least).

3D Mario
Best: Galaxy (World, SM64, Galaxy 2 & Sunshine all tie for a close second though)
Worst/Least Great: 3D Land

2D Mario
Best: SMB3
Worst/ Least Great: NSMBWii Just the one that didn't capture my attention for ages

Donkey Kong:
Best: Country
Worst: DK64 - because it could have been a giant gorilla step into 3D but it really wasn't .. DK tripped and fell over a banana skin oo oo ah ah
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Robbie » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:39 am

Grand Theft Auto:
Best: San Andreas
Worst: GTA 4
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by danbish » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:51 am

Mario series
Best: Super Mario Galaxy
Worst: Super Mario Bros. 2 (our version)

Mario Kart
Best: Mario Kart 8
Worst: Mario Kart Advance

Mario & Luigi
Best: SuperStar Saga
Worst: Bowser's Inside Story

Paper Mario:
Best: TTYD
Worst: Sticker Star

Wario Land
Best: Shake Dimension
Worst: Wario Land 3

Advance Wars
Best: Advance Wars
Worst: Advance Wars - Days of Ruin

Metal Gear Solid
Best: Metal Gear Solid
Worst: MGS Portable Ops (close second is MGS2)

Metroid
Best: Metroid Prime
Worst: Metroid

Zelda
Best: Ocarina of Time
Worst: The Legend of Zelda
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Spilskinanka » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:43 pm

Mario Kart:
Best: DS (but super circuit is so so good too)
Worst: Double Dash (come at me)

Pokemon:
Best: B/W
Worst: ORAS

Mass Effect:
Best: 2
Worst: 3
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Nintendonator3000 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:39 pm

3D Mario
Best: Mario Galaxy 1/2 - Count them both as pretty much the same game, quite simply they're masterpieces
Worst: 3D Land - Still a fun game, just doesn't do anything exciting

2D Mario
Best: NSMB U - I'm a sucker for multi-player Mario, and this does it best
Worst: NSMB DS - Not really sure why I didn't like it, it just felt dull and archaic

Mario Kart
Best: Mario Kart 8 - Great music, Track Design and DLC make this game for me
Worst: Double Dash - Never could get a hang of the control scheme

3D Zelda
Best: Skyward Sword - Great dungeons, Characters, Music and Controls (favorite game of all time)
Worst: Wind Waker - Still love it, but dungeons are a bit annoying as is the great sea

2D Zelda
Best: ALBBW - takes the original and makes it near perfect for a 2D game
Worst: Oracle Series - not bad, just uninspired
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Icarus1497 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:23 pm

So many opinions to disagree with, so little time.

Zelda
Best: Ocarina of Time
Worst: Link's Awakening (I guess)

Pokemon
Best: ORAS or BW2
Worst: RBY

Mario
Best: Super Mario 3D World (can't beat playing with friends imo)
Worst: NSMB2

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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Vtheyoshi » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:25 pm

Zelda

Best: Wind Waker
Worst: Skyward Sword (fight me)

Mario platformers

Best: Super Mario Galaxy 1/2
Worst: NSMBW

Mario RPGs

Best: Bowser's Inside Story (maybe Paper Mario, or the SNES one)
Worst: Dream Team (still a very good game, just feels a bit... lesser than the other ones)

Mario Kart

Best: MK8
Worst: MKW (good game, but too gooseberry fool chaotic)

Metroid

Best: Super
Worst: Hunters

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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Nintendonator3000 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:26 pm

Vtheyoshi wrote:Worst: Skyward Sword (fight me)
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Pineapple » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:21 pm

Kirby:
Best- Epic Yarn
Worst- Dream Land

Pokémon:
Best- HeartGold/SoulSilver
Worst- Red/Blue

Kingdom Hearts:
Best- II
Worst- Coded

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Best- 2
Worst- Black Knight
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by samus_killer » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:07 pm

Bare in mind that I'm only going off of what games I've played.

Legend of Zelda
Best: Wind Waker - art style, characters, SAILING
Worst: Phantom Hourglass - worst of a great bunch

Mario Kart
Best: Double Dash!! - most dynamic MK with the best tracks in the series
Worst: 64 -rubberbanding, meh tracks

Mario RPGs
Best: Thousand-Year Door - best battle system and story
Worst: Sticker Star - worst battle system and story

Wario Ware
Best: Mega Party Game$ - dat multiplayer with 3 friends
Worst: Game & Wario - boring minigames, limited multiplayer

Donkey Kong
Best: Country Tropical Freeze - one of the best 2D platformers I've ever played
Worst: Jet Race - one of the worst arcade racers I've ever played

Metroid
Best: Prime 1 - one of the most immersive games I've ever played
Worst: Other M - THE BABY

Star Fox
Best: Lylat Wars - lost count of the amount of times I've replayed it
Worst: Command - hated the contrived combat from the start

Pokemon RPGs
Best: Gold/Silver - the biggest leap forward the series has ever seen, also Kanto and Red
Worst: Ruby/Sapphire - the smallest leap forward the series has ever seen, also limited 'mon & world

Pokemon Spin-offs
Best: Snap - makes taking pictures fun
Worst: Battle Revolution - it's Pokemon Stadium without the minigames

007
Best: GoldenEye 64 - best game ever made, period
Worst: GoldenEye Rogue Agent - somehow gooseberry fool up playing a game as a Bond villian

Call of Duty
Best: Modern Warfare 2 - best multiplayer in the series, also great campaign
Worst: Black Ops Declassified - felt like it was made in a week, probably was

Resident Evil
Best: Revelations - great melding of new-school resi controls, with old-school resi horror
Worst: 6 - just an absolute cluster gooseberry fool from start to finish

Sonic
Best: 2 - Chemical Plant zone
Worst: Fighters - awful AWFUL controls and zero content

Banjo-Kazooie
Best: Banjo-Kazooie - one of the finest 3D platformers ever made
Worst: Banjo Pilot - up there with DK Jet Race for worst kart racers

Battlefield
Best: Bad Company 2 - probably my favourite online shooter of all time
Worst: 1943 - eh, the worst of a great bunch

Grand Theft Auto
Best: Chinatown Wars - DRUG SELLING
Worst: IV - boring, never liked the story or controls

Dead Space
Best: 2 - could not put the game down from start to finish
Worst: Extraction - another worst of a great bunch

Uncharted
Best: Among Thieves - best train level in gaming, also cool story
Wost: Drake's Fortune - it's aged reeeeeeeeeeeeal bad

Assassin's Creed
Best: Brotherhood one huge open world, building a brotherhood of assassins
Worst: 3 - oh I'm so boooooooooooored

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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Kesskuron » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:57 pm

Nintendonator3000 wrote: Worst: Wind Waker - Still love it, but dungeons are a bit annoying as is the great sea
The gooseberry fool is this eton mess
Icarus1497 wrote: Worst: Link's Awakening (I guess)
THE gooseberry fool IS THIS
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Icarus1497 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:23 pm

I didn't exactly want to put worst, just least best. I might swap it with Zelda I or II, but I'm not sure.

And yeah, I did enjoy the DS games, but maybe I have fonder memories of those as they were the first two in the series I played.
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by JenovaPX » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:53 pm

Yeah, but even if you disliked Wind Waker there's then the two DS sequels, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks that are worse. Zelda II is understandable for being completely different to all the other games or there's even the CDi eton mess. In fact to anyone who mentions Zelda games there's the CDi eton mess.
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Post by samus_killer » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:57 pm

Yeah but who's really played those CDi games?

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Post by JenovaPX » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:22 pm

I feel I've seen enough to know in my heart. But even without them, the DS games mark the modern low point by a pretty big margin.
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Post by samus_killer » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:24 pm

Yeah, true. Although I'm not gonna lie, I still enjoyed the DS games quite a bit.

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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by JenovaPX » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:42 pm

They have their moments for sure, I mean Linebeck is definitely a plus
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Nintendonator3000 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:03 am

Kesskuron wrote:
Nintendonator3000 wrote: Worst: Wind Waker - Still love it, but dungeons are a bit annoying as is the great sea
The gooseberry fool is this eton mess
I still love Wind Waker and think it's an amazing game - but for some reason I just found the dungeons really dull and frustrating (and most bosses were pretty bad) which puts it below the others for me. For the record, I was classing the DS games as 2D entries.
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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by bigcalwv » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:03 pm

Just including games I've played, obviously:

Mario 2D Platformers
Best - Super Mario World (SNES)
Worst - Super Mario Land (GB)

Mario 3D Platformers
Best - Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Wii)
Worst - Super Mario 64 (N64) - NOT in any way a bad game btw.

Mario Kart
Best - Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)
Worst - Mario Kart 64 (N64)

Crash Bandicoot
Best - Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back (PS1)
Worst - Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex (PS2) - Note: haven't played any since that one.

Grand Theft Auto
Best - Vice City (PS2/PC)
Worst - San Andreas (PS2/PC) - Yeah, I just don't like San Andreas at all. Can't get into the story whatsoever.

Pokemon
Best - Gold & Silver/DS Remakes (GBC/DS)
Worst - Diamond & Pearl (DS) - Just found these ones kinda boring.

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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by DekuHero » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:46 pm

Mario "Main Series"
Best - Super Mario Galaxy (They will never be able to make a Mario game better than this)
Worst - Super Mario Sunshine (yeah it's not like awful or anything, in fact the only reason I didn't put NSMB2 was because I don't count the NSMB games as part of the "main series")

The Legend of Zelda "Main Series" (and by main series I mean no link's crossbow training, cdi or Tingle games)
Best - Majora's Mask (I would put A Link to the Past because it changed the series forever but Majora's Mask has the most interesting things in it and is very unique, Twilight Princess was basically Ocarina of Time: Darker and Grittier Edition Are You Happy Now Sorry For Wind Waker's Art Design. Wind waker is also great but MM is better still.)
Worst - Oracle of Seasons/Ages (yeah sorry to people that like this game, it's not bad but it just why did they do the pokemon thing of doing 2 games at once? I would have also put Minish Cap or Phantom Hourglass/Spirit Tracks)

Mario Kart
Best - Mario Kart DS (yeah, I know Mario Kart 8 has amazing track design and is HD and more balanced and antigravity and DLC, but you see this game actually has multiplayer arenas for battle mode, it had every kart for every character, it was the first one with proper online, for its time this was the better mario kart, it feels much more fully featured than the admittedly bare-bones offering we had with 8. (also, Waluigi Pinball. come on.))
Worst - Mario Kart Double Dash!! (drifting is just not good in this game, course design is ok but the 2 characters in 1 kart mechanic never felt like anything but a gimmick that didn't enhance the gameplay)

Sonic "Main Series"
Best - Sonic 3 & Knuckles (No contest. No. Bloody. Contest. This massive game should just be renamed to Sonic 3 because that's what it is, combined with the Knuckles cartridge it becomes the game that Sonic 3 was intended to be by its creators and that game is one of the greatest platformers ever made. Sonic Adventure is only good in the Sonic and Tails levels and Sonic Adventure 2 is only good in the Sonic and Shadow levels. Sonic 1 & 2 were both fine games but 3&K took everything good about them and expanded upon it. Unleashed was only good in the day levels, Generations was great but not Sonic 3&K great, same goes for Colours (although Colours > Generations))
Worst - Sonic 06 (I'M SORRY. I know everyone is sick to death with hearing about the game. I know it was 9 years ago. It's still the worst Sonic game, simple as. I would have said Secret Rings but I don't count that in the main series, same goes for Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric. Heroes isn't very good tbh, the dialogue is annoying and the gameplay and level design is meh. Shadow the Hedgehog I can't believe they thought that was a good idea, they really didn't care about Sonic any more at that point but it's still a spin off.)

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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Oathkeeper » Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:58 pm

Only choosing games that I've played.

Kingdom Hearts
Best: Kingdom Hearts 2
Worst: Kingdom Hearts re:coded

Mario 2D
Best: Super Mario Bros. 3
Worst: New Super Mario Bros. Wii

Mario 3D
Best: Galaxy 2
Worst: 64 DS

Zelda
Best: Majora's Mask
Worst: Twilight Princess

Donkey Kong Country
Best: Tropical Freeze
Worst: 3

Mario Kart
Best: Double Dash
Worst: 8

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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by Silver light » Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:26 pm

This should be fun

Zelda
Best: Twilight Princess
Worst: Skyward Sword

Final Fantasy
Best: FF IV
Worst: FF VIII or XIII. They're both trash enough.

Pokemon
Best: G/S/C (Originals)
Worst: R/S/E

Halo
Best: Halo Reach
Worst: Halo 4

Fire Emblem
Best: Radiant Dawn
Worst: Awakening I forgot Shadow Dragon existed

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Re: Best and worst games in a series?

Post by JenovaPX » Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:09 pm

Franchises I can think of

Zelda:

Best: Majora's Mask
Worst: Spirit Tracks

Final Fantasy:

Best: Final Fantasy VI
Worst: Final Fantasy XIII

Souls:

Best: DaS1
Worst: DaS2

Pokémon:

Best: GSC/HGSS
Worst: DPPt

Mario:

Best: Paper Mario TTYD
Worst: Sticker Star

Metroid:

Best: Super Metroid
Worst: Other M

Devil May Cry

Best: DMC3
Worst: DMC2

Sonic:

Best: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (or Shadow because guns and motorbikes are genius right?)
Worst: 06/Saboom

Resident Evil:

Best: Resident Evil 2
Worst: Resident Evil 6

Silent Hill:

Best: Silent Hill 2
Worst: Silent Hill Homecoming
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