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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Troggy » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:38 pm

In terms of a basic one-on-one fight, Wario and The Mountain both have a fairly equal chance at winning, due to their brute strength and lack of proper battle strategies. However, since Wario has his Metal and Warioman forms to fight with, he edges it out. As people have said before, as powerful as he is, The Mountain is still a regular old bloke, so Wario would wipe the floor with him in either of the latter's two forms.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Rik » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:49 am

Wario would easily win because he can just materialise his bike and throw it at the Mountain repeatedly, even if he keeps destroying it with his sword at some point that'll take its toll and dull/snap the blade at which point it's straight wrestling. Then all Wario needs to do is get on top, fart and then ground pound the hell out of Clegane.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by JenovaPX » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:56 pm

Going to be honest, I think Smash logic shouldn't be included because it's a dream match and isn't canon to any character so unless things like spawning his bikes ad infinitum were in another game then that really shouldn't be considered an ability.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Aren142 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:59 pm

He'd probably do better riding the bike away from the Mountain and causing him to inhale exhaust fumes.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by IronHide » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:31 pm

Wario would manage to beat the Mountain eventually.

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Jezo » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:35 pm

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Scapegoat » Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:06 pm

JenovaPX wrote:Going to be honest, I think Smash logic shouldn't be included because it's a dream match and isn't canon to any character so unless things like spawning his bikes ad infinitum were in another game then that really shouldn't be considered an ability.
yeah, if I allowed video game logic then everyone would have infinite inventory space and could carry like 50 different weapons all at once.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by beansontoast » Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:18 pm

but does the mountain own a mountain?

checkmate

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Met » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:13 pm

If we include Smash logic then we have to assume people like Peach can slap hard enough to significantly damage highly advanced Chozo battle armour.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Aren142 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:29 pm

Never underestimate the damage output of the slap of a bread and buttered off woman.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Rik » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:31 pm

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by PiGreat » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:40 pm

Assuming we're going strictly by the show, the Mountain is significantly nerfed. Wario takes it 7/10 times imo

Book Gregor would put up much more of a fight though. I'd put Book Mountain vs Wario at 6/10 wins for Greg
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Warmij » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:16 am

When I was younger I used to have a trampoline in my back garden and I invented a game called "Super Moose Battle Trampoline". It was great.

Also, The Mountain without a doubt.

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Scapegoat » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:11 pm

Hello everyone it is time for an update.

Firstly, thanks to the magic of Challonge, the bracket is sorted and we'll be having 12 people go straight to round 2 which fixes the bad number nicely. It works out better than my original plan as nobody is getting gooseberry fool over in the late stages of the game this way.

You can now see all of the matches planned.

The bracket can be found here:
http://challonge.com/sucbtsonm

Next up, we have the results of the first fight!

Due to the poll results, the fight will take place in an arena that benefits Samus Aran, so the fight takes place on a large circular platform suspended above lava.

The fight might go something like this:
Immediately, Samus begins firing shots at Batman. The shots are pretty slow, so Batman has no problems dodging these with his insane agility and reflexes. He trows some batarangs which Samus also dodges easily. With both combatants unable to actually hit each other from range, the fight will be decided with some good old CQC.

Samus and Batman are both intelligent. Samus knows that she can survive a fall into the lava below, and so stays near the edge of the platform. Batman must find a way to kill Samus without putting himself in danger. He's not an idiot, so he wouldn't charge in like a maniac as it would only result in him plummeting to his death. He's good at thinking on the fly, and has a lot of options thanks to his utility belt, however, simply knocking Samus into lava will not kill her. In order for Batman to kill Samus, he'll have to get in close enough to either forcefully remove one of Samus' limbs or head, or find a way to disable the Power Suit that is keeping her alive.

An EMP would not disable the Power Suit, as it's actually mostly biological, so that's out of the question. There is nothing Batman has that can potentially disable her suit from range. Batman's only option would be to get in close and attempt to beat Samus at a close range. Batman is actually a better CQC fighter than Samus, despite having Chozo DNA and military training, unlike Batman, Samus is not a master in over 100 different martial arts. Batman has far more things he can do when it comes to CQC. On top of this, his insane reflexes should prevent Samus from getting off a point blank power shot.

Batman can easily get in, he has the reflexes to dodge any projectiles Samus fires at him, however, with Samus this close to the edge of the arena, it's incredibly risky move. He can't keep dodging from a range forever, as despite his borderline superhuman stamina, he's still just human, and will eventually get sluggish.

In this situation Batman has to go for it. He has no other options and continuing to fight like he is will only end poorly for him. He goes in for the CQC. Now it's all about the CQC. Samus will be unable to compete with Batman in close quarters, and while she has the reflexes to fight toe to toe with him, he has her beat when it comes to unique methods of attack, however, Samus, is an incredible puzzle solver. She would be well aware by this point that Batman would not be able to survive the lava below. She enters a grapple with Batman and throws herself off the platform. She can survive the lava, but Batman cannot. Samus might be weaker than Batman when it comes to CQC, but she still has far above average strength. Batman would not be able to get out of her grip so easily. They'd both fall incredibly fast. If Batman could only just get out of Samus' grip, he'd be able to save himself, by either gliding using his cape, or using his grappling hook to latch on to something, however, with the death grip of Samus, Batman would not be able to wrestle free in order to use anything.

They'd both plummet into the lava below.

Batman becomes toast the moment he hits the lava, while Samus' Power Suit keeps her alive long enough to escape.

The winner is Samus Aran.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Kappa » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:19 pm

she didn't use power bombs to nuke the arena because she felt bad for batman, the regular human being.

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Garf » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:26 pm

did adam authorise her to use her cannon

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by JenovaPX » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:35 pm

Just realised, why's there a Yu-Gi-Oh character in this?
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Garf » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:35 pm

hoyle

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Met » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:25 pm

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Decretum » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:39 pm

Clegane is fukd
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Robbo-92 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:25 pm

Id say it'd depend on whether is pre or post Viper fight Mountain, post Viper fight The Mountain would win I reckon, pre Viper it might be a little closer but I'd still side with The Mountain.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Aren142 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:54 pm

JenovaPX wrote:Just realised, why's there a Yu-Gi-Oh character in this?
Both my nominations got in. You know, just to ruin it for everyone else.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Kappa » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:58 pm

too bad she stopped being a psyker to sell blackwings so she's just a normie

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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Scapegoat » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:00 pm

originally I dismissed Akiza for being a yu-gi-oh character until I realised that she can actually bring them fully to life so she actually does have an almost unlimited supply of dragons and eton mess that she can throw at her opponent.

so she basically has like 30 stands she can use.
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Re: SUCBT - Wario VS The Mountain | Week 2, Fight 1.

Post by Aren142 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:15 pm

40 card deck minimum. Plus extra deck which has at least 2 things.
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