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Robot Feminism: The ethics of having sex with a robot

Post by Cruizer » Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:31 pm

For better or for worse within our lifetime we will have sex robots. I thought this made quite interesting reading https://campaignagainstsexrobots.org/ probably nsfw.

So I watched Ex-Machina and thought the morality behind having sex with a robot might make an interesting discussion point.  After some soul-searching and checking of my privilege I am definitely against sex with robots.

On one hand - just because the technology is there; is it anymore of a betrayal than simulating orgasim via a conventional marrital aide e.g. vibrator or toaster? Also there is probably a strong argument to be made that sex-bots could reduce human prostitution and trafficing (I think we can agree, that degradation of sex-bots is a lesser evil than exploitation of human sex workers).  But I've personally come to the conclusion (with the help of a couple of tumblr blogs I've skimmed through) that convincing, sexually active robots is dehumanising, promotes gender inequality, is inherrently misogynistic and that the sexualisation of female robots is a violation of humankinds autonomy.

So why is robot feminism important. As it is there is a whole generation of young men raised on porn (fwiw I have never watched pornograpy).   The internet age has turned attraction into oppression, turning peoples bodies into images to be shared and abused and it's not just porn its "romancess" like 50 shades that has themes of stalking, harrassment and abuse where the message could be misread as "people should enjoy being sex objects"  if we have robots specifically programmed to be dosile, sex objects surely this will reinforce some dangerous ideas about patriarch.

I also think sex-robots could be the end of humankind, which the Futurama episode "I dated a robot" touched on quite well. So much of what we do creatively, technologicaly, academically and socially end-point is to impress a potential sexual partner - where is the incentive for the betterment of the  species when we can just "make-out with our Monroe-bot". 

Further, where does this leave actual human love and sex if "better-than-the-real thing" sex bots exist? When it comes to food our most basic desires are becoming a hindrance we have become detached from our environment but we still have these hunter-gather bodies and still desire sugar and fat which in nature are rare but we now live in a society where we have plentiful and easy access to without having to expend any calories and it's killing some of us, people just want the gratification of fat etc and exist on chemicals and aren't getting the nutrients and vitamins they need.  Perhaps artificial sex would replace the real thing and where does that leave the propagation of the species.

What do you think - discuss the morality of robot sex.
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Re: Robot Feminism: The ethics of having sex with a robot

Post by row101 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:48 pm

Cruizer wrote: is it anymore of a betrayal than simulating orgasim via a conventional marrital aide e.g. vibrator or toaster.
TIL people get an orgasm from a toaster.

But I consider it no different from watching porn, which, whilst it can be unhealthy or addictive to some, I consider to be morally acceptable. Both are essentially just creating an artificial sexual experience, which I have no moral issues with.
So why is robot feminism important. As it is there is a whole generation of young men raised on porn (fwiw I have never watched pornograpy). The internet age has turned attraction into oppression, turning peoples bodies into images to be shared and abused and it's not just porn its "romancess" like 50 shades that has themes of stalking, harrassment and abuse where the message could be misread as "people should enjoy being sex objects" if we have robots specifically programmed to be dosile, sex objects surely this will reinforce some dangerous ideas about patriarch.
But... women have sexual desires as well, porn also has men in who are equally objectified and who's to say there won't be male sex robots? I don't think this is a feminist issue.
I also think sex-robots could be the end of humankind, which the Futurama episode "I dated a robot" touched on quite well. So much of what we do creatively, technologicaly, academically and socially end-point is to impress a potential sexual partner - where is the incentive for the betterment of the species when we can just "make-out with our Monroe-bot".

Further, where does this leave actual human love and sex if "better-than-the-real thing" sex bots exist? When it comes to food our most basic desires are becoming a hindrance we have become detached from our environment but we still have these hunter-gather bodies and still desire sugar and fat which in nature are rare but we now live in a society where we have plentiful and easy access to without having to expend any calories and it's killing some of us, people just want the gratification of fat etc and exist on chemicals and aren't getting the nutrients and vitamins they need. Perhaps artificial sex would replace the real thing.
This is purely speculation and it's unreasonable to have a discussion on the long-term social effects when they haven't yet become mainstream. We don't know what will happen. But as I said, it's an artificial sexual experience and it isn't a replacement for a real thing, rather something that those without a relationship can enjoy.
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Post by Garf » Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:55 pm

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Post by Troggy » Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:02 pm

guys i just got my $300 tax rebate from nixon

should i spend it on one $300 hooker-bot or 300 $1 hooker-bots
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Post by Garf » Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:12 pm

it's a liverpool tart to clean so get the cheaper, disposable option

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Post by OmegaPit » Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:28 pm

Cruizer wrote:But I've personally come to the conclusion (with the help of a couple of tumblr blogs I've skimmed through) that convincing, sexually active robots is dehumanising, promotes gender inequality, is inherrently misogynistic and that the sexualisation of female robots is a violation of humankinds autonomy.
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Post by Met » Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:30 pm

You do you and I'll do my give-up machine.
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Re: Robot Feminism: The ethics of having sex with a robot

Post by Scapegoat » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:14 am

I am for robot sex because it means nerds like me who cant get a girlfriend can still have sex.

then again with robot sex it would be the last straw for japan sending them into a stage of 0 babies so there's that problem and no japan means no anime now that's a scary thought.


also as a side note if you've never watched porn how do you jack off cruiser do you sit there and just like, go at it while imagining it? And don't tell me you don't fap because that is a lie nobody has the willpower to not fap unless you have some other means of emptying your balls.
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Post by Met » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:20 am

Then again, it would explain so much.
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Post by Warmij » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:43 am

Yes, because far-left Tumblr SJW blogs which consider any apparent gender differences to be products of the patriarchy are a very reliable source of information and wisdom

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Post by Kappa » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:40 am

i'd gooseberry fool a robot but only in vr so it looks like an anime girl

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Post by RainbowGazelle » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:13 am

These idiots will turn anything into supposed "misogyny".
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Post by Kappa » Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:44 am

including misogyny

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Post by Vtheyoshi » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:48 am

it is the only way I will ever be with my waifu irl so it is acceptable
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This is the face of the only acceptable personality download for a sex bot:
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Post by Kappa » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:13 pm

are you saying that you would gooseberry fool robo gus

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Re: Robot Feminism: The ethics of having sex with a robot

Post by Garf » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:37 pm

labrys>aigis>metis fight me

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Post by PiGreat » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:39 pm

Garf wrote:aigis>labrys>metis fight me
ftfy

also i want a sexbot because that way i can at least pretend someone loves me
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Post by Garf » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:42 pm

aigis is worse because

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Post by PiGreat » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:44 pm

aigis will love and protect you for the rest of eternity

labrys is cute but that's it

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at least you were correct about metis being a eton mess though
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Re: Robot Feminism: The ethics of having sex with a robot

Post by jimbob555 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:46 pm

PiGreat wrote:
Garf wrote:aigis>labrys>metis fight me
ftfy

also i want a sexbot because that way i can at least pretend someone loves me
perhaps regulations for the robots will be a bit like smoking with warnings on them

every ten minutes it goes "i dont love you" "we can not reproduce" "humankind has created many great things in the persuit of sexual intercourse"
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Post by PiGreat » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:48 pm

don't do this to me
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