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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by DJHero » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:34 am

What did we think of 30 Hours? I'd say it was a solid 7.5/10 tune

(also lol has anyone even mentioned Future's new album)
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Twi » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:40 am

ミドリ wrote:with my WOES
you know how that eton mess go


i like rap that actually tries. kanye was in the basement uncredited for so many good tracks before anyone knew his name so he will always be safe imo. i like a lot of unpopular rap because it makes sense, a lot of people will criticise you like "your bars don't make sense" then blast King Kunta without knowing 'liverpool tart where was you when i was gooseberry fool' is a terrible bar.

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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by ミドリ » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:35 am

Well, yeah, but the bar is "where was you when I was WALKIN". Kunta Kinte got his foot cut off.
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Twi » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:41 am

oh ok well these gooseberry fool bois are shouting gooseberry fool at parties and i still don't rate the bar all that

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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by ミドリ » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:06 pm

so corny
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by WithLoveAndSqualor » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:18 pm

everyone knows taking over and man don't care are the best on integrity
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by DJHero » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:38 am

man don't care bout all dat

EDIT: THE ALBUM IS OUT BABY
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Yinga Garten » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:04 pm

Anybody who proclaims The Life of Pablo to be great is seriously deluded.

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Post by WithLoveAndSqualor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:21 pm

it is pretty great though, come off it
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Yinga Garten » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:35 pm

Good in sporadic patches but never reaches greatness. Its a cluttered, fragmented mess and his second worst album behind 808s.

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Post by WithLoveAndSqualor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:37 pm

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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Yinga Garten » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:38 pm

Literally nobody would agree with you on that apart from Kanye fanatics, who have the same impaired judgement the man himself has.

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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by DJHero » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:23 pm

I can't really explain it, but whilst some of the songs on TLOP are really good, I feel like the cohesion on it as an album isn't very well done. But since I listen to most songs on shuffle anyway I literally don't care.

Bar Facts I don't think there any songs I could classify as bad.

MBDTF > College Dropout > TLOP = Late Registration > Graduation = Yeezus > 808s

PROS: Some absolute tunes out there, and very well produced. Good guest stars on the songs as well.

CONS: Whilst no song is classified as bad, a few songs come across as average and I find if you listen to the album as a whole it is quite a bit worse than if you listened to each song individually or shuffled. Definitely a lack of cohesion and flow in the album, may be intentional though for all we know about Kanye. A few songs drag out unnecessarily as well EG FML, 30 Hours and Low Lights is kinda pointless to be separated from Highlights. It really is a very edgy album, like Kanye himself.

Definitely worthy of an 8/10 in my opinion though, it will probably grow on me like Yeezus did though.
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Yinga Garten » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:10 pm

TLOP on a par with Late Registration? Seriously? At least you attempted some criticism instead of star-gazing admiration but no way is it an 8/10.

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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by WithLoveAndSqualor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:20 pm

gooseberry fool off with the 808s hate, it's gooseberry fool golden
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Yinga Garten » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:22 pm

No need to get aggressive fanboy. Even though I understand why he had to make that record, it's bad.

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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by WithLoveAndSqualor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:25 pm

pretty much shaped modern rap

no
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Yinga Garten » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:26 pm

Look, you'd defend Kanye even if he put out a record of different samples of his own farts.

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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by WithLoveAndSqualor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:31 pm

nada

it's just kanye hasn't made a bad album

(with the exception of cruel summer)

((which is basically a G.O.O.D music album so doesn't really count))
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by DJHero » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:34 pm

Yinga Garten wrote:TLOP on a par with Late Registration? Seriously? At least you attempted some criticism instead of star-gazing admiration but no way is it an 8/10.
There's a string of good songs though dotted with some gems in my opinion, but I can see how it polarizes.
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by charlie » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:48 pm

main issue with tlop is the lack of coherency

there are some good tracks but you can tell its name has changed 3 times

just feels disjointed tbh

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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Stanson » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:05 am

You don't have to be so obsessively loyal to him, it doesn't make you some sort of incredible fan. In fact, a better fan would be willing to accept when he's been at his weakest. Kanye's been massive in shaping my music taste ever since I first listened to The College Dropout....but saying 808s and Heartbreak shaped modern rap is absolutely ridiculous and narrow minded. I dislike it but it's his favourite album, it means a lot to him, it has a lot of fans and it at least has cohesion.

The Life of Pablo is incredibly messy. Is this surprising given the chopping and changing of his work since he began a follow up to Yeezus? I think he has put a great deal of pressure on himself to deliver something special because he is always trying to better himself or be creative. Pablo has some good stuff in it, no doubt. But it has ended up as a hodgepodge. I don't think he had a clear direction here and it's kinda cost the album. It's a shame. I'd always be more interested in hearing Kanye work than another bland J Cole album or something.

People have an obsession with people they admire having some sort of perfect, clean slate record of quality. It's no shame to have made missteps. Some of the greatest artists of all time have made unusual creative decisions. But without having the balls to do that, then they wouldn't be the greats that they are. I didn't think Yeezus was a misstep but I thought it was weak. I think this was a misstep.

Late Registration has a clear style, excellent production work throughout, some great features and one or two weak tracks. I think it's nonsense to call TLOP a better 'album', a better 'package', even if you prefer the songs.

For what it's worth, No More Parties in LA is the only track that clearly stands out as a highlight for me. Which is a real shame.
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by ミドリ » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:09 am

I haven't listened to it but my opinion is the only one that will matter so you can stop arguing about this album before anyone's even had time to process it
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by DJHero » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:22 am

I think by trying to combine elements of ALL of his previous albums it's gotten kind of messy.

BANGERS: Highlights, No More Parties, Fade, Wolves, Ultralight Beam
Semi-BANGERS: 30 Hours, Famous, Feedback
WACK: Freestyle 4, Facts, Lowlights


Reviews seem to be polarizing just like Yeezus, but in the opposite way:

Yeezus - General critical approval by Critics, split the fans.
TLOP - General critical approval by fans, split the Critics.
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Re: why isnt there a rap thread on this forum

Post by Donkey Kong Jr. » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:10 pm

Kanyefork as per give it a BNM

I still haven't even listened to it yet I am doing life wrong
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